E85

[Krazy Kyle]

So really, what your saying is there is no way around it.

[Ralph Wiggum]

E10 with a high flow cat is a better option for passing emissions.

[Krazy Kyle]

So, if someone was to get pulled over and put over the pits, including emissions, you could throw a tank of E10 and re-tune/de-tune it to pass?

[k31th]

Which emissions test... Not all emissions tests are made equal...? 

[turbotrana]

Remember the ring in the front pipe of the exhaust of FGs put there to heat the catalitic converter up quicker. So it would be hard to pass the cold start emissions test which the car manufacturers need to comply with.

 

Pretty sure emission testing stations are all hot start tests so a good injector like ID1000 and twin factory cats would pass if tuned correctly. It would need the injectors to be dialed in really well so that all the closed loop trimmings work properly. E85 should make it easier to pass. In the US they do dump a bit of ethanol in the tank to pass the test. A very important factor is having hot cats just before the testing.

[Ralph Wiggum]

28 minutes ago, k31th said:

Which emissions test... Not all emissions tests are made equal...? 

IM240

[k31th]

Yep, with IM240, if you can get a tuner to 5 gas test it and tune it to pass that, it should pass the IM240 on 98 alone... but a little ethanol in the tank would help.

 

If you tried to use E85 the tester would be able to smell the difference and may strike it as a failure automatically due to trying to "cheat the system" with a different fuel. 

[PhilMeUp]

5 hours ago, Krazy Kyle said:

So, if someone was to get pulled over and put over the pits, including emissions, you could throw a tank of E10 and re-tune/de-tune it to pass?

 

What I got told (from asking lots of people):

- Put an original Ford cat on.  Apparently it's one of the rare times when the factory has the best item.

- Car might pass with factory cat on.  If not then put car on dyno and rev the hell of it.  Get cat as hot as possible - they work better when they're hot.

- If it still fails... dunno... time for HP Tuners.

 

My green Tornado has been passed, but I haven't picked it up yet.  I'll find out some info about it tomorrow.  

 

Wasn't cheap ($580) and the car was there for three weeks.  

 

XFT quoted me $1,500 to pass an emissions test.

Edited 23/05/16 05:15 PM by PhilMeUp

[Ralph Wiggum]

9 hours ago, Krazy Kyle said:

So, if someone was to get pulled over and put over the pits, including emissions, you could throw a tank of E10 and re-tune/de-tune it to pass?

In the simplest of terms yes.

[MattyP]

What are the parameters for the emissions test? Is it wot or cruise/idle

Also

Do we get hydrous ethanol at all?