Xcal 1 Going Offline Discussion

[Pazzo]

+1 with turbo6fg, if that happens everyone will be tuning with vcm or sniper. and if sct did pull out I bet the price of a vcm/sniper tune will go above $1000 for sure.

[nathen]

there are other options.dream science ,delta

[nathen]

I hope it's quicker than that and I'm sure Rob from Herrod does as he flew out to the States to work with SCT this week to attempt to get things up and running quicker

maybe while he is there he can beg charlie to turn the xcal1 boxes back on or lower the prices of xcal3!!!

Edited 02/11/10 09:19 AM by Adam
Removed comment: How much dealers make from the boxes is none of our business

[Evil F6]

Well I've been under a rock for the last 6 months, and I only found out today when I dropped my car in at tunehouse that Xcal1 is now dead and they couldn't do any more tune work unless I have Xcal3. I was also told the $100 buy back had expired. I'm sure it's come up before, but I can't see how this is legal. It's one thing to stop supporting a product and say you now use at your own risk and there are no more updates etc, but physically crippling the device and forcing you to purchase new hardware without compensation or heavily discounting new hardware, seems totally illegal. Has anybody talked to consumer affairs?

[MRO]

You just summaries the argument in one paragraph.

No one thinks it is fair other than SCT and Herrods who get to sell you the new device.

[Adam]

Talk to Genebaby.

He's all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake.

[nathen]

genebaby..

whats the goss

[Turbo6FG]

Just read the last 24 pages

[arronm]

Well I've been under a rock for the last 6 months, and I only found out today when I dropped my car in at tunehouse that Xcal1 is now dead and they couldn't do any more tune work unless I have Xcal3. I was also told the $100 buy back had expired. I'm sure it's come up before, but I can't see how this is legal. It's one thing to stop supporting a product and say you now use at your own risk and there are no more updates etc, but physically crippling the device and forcing you to purchase new hardware without compensation or heavily discounting new hardware, seems totally illegal. Has anybody talked to consumer affairs?

You can still use the X1 to load and change tunes on your car. You just cant load new tunes into the box. If you hadnt decided to retune your car you wouldnt have been affected at all. Exactly the same happened to me. I wanted a new tune so I bought a X3. If you dont want to fork out for a new box, just keep your current tune. I have a VHS player ( X1), I can still play all the VHS tapes I own (old tunes) , but I cant buy the the latest movie (new tune) and play it on my VHS because it only comes out in DVD . So I have to buy a DVD player (X3). Its not an exact analogy but its pretty close.

Edited 04/11/10 11:57 AM by arronm

[Zerosignal]

All your doing arronm is trying to justify what sct did using a poor analogy. I have an iPhone 3 (x1) but because some shifties figured out how to jailbreak it for use with illegal apps, apple (SCT) have disabled its ability to download new apps, I can still use the apps on it but cant update anything unless I buy the iPhone 4 (X3). Both sides can put a spin on it to support their arguement.